FTA on DN 7 at 119

glen4cindy · #1 (**permalink**) 03-06-2007, 01:13 AM

In looking at Lyngsat, there seems to be a few TV and several radio channels that are shown as "F".

I've seen the same thing on other sats, but, with the the first bar on each frequency showing Digicipher II, meaning that those cannot be received directly on my Fortec.

In several frequencies on 119, there are these "F" such as 12253-R-20000. There are 4 TV channels shown as "F". The first bar shows Nagravision 2. Does this mean that the whold mux is actually Nagravision 2 or are those channels actually Free-To-Air if I had a circular LNB?

There are many radio channels that would follow the same pattern. I was wanting to get a quad LNB from Sadoun that will receive both Linear and Circular signals if I could in fact get these channels. If they are not actually available free then I probably would not spring for the money since there would not be anything else other than promos.

Thanks!

rainman · #2 (**permalink**) 03-06-2007, 06:19 AM

by what is showing on lyngsat they are in the clear so you should be able to get them with a qph031 lnb.not home right now to check.

Reinhold · #3 (**permalink**) 03-06-2007, 07:25 AM

There are a certain amount of channels free,like NASA GOLTv etc and many radio stations.
Reinhold.

wejones · #4 (**permalink**) 03-06-2007, 07:47 AM

The dishnet channels can generally be received if they are not encrypted.
HOWEVER....
(1) Lyngsat is not always up to date. For example, I think there are a couple channels on the 110 sat that Lyngsat says are free, but they aren't, plus some free things come and go.
(2) Some Dishnet things are 8psk, so those channels can't be received by most receivers even if free.
(3) Some Dishnet transponders are spot beams. For example, the Miami channels. I don't know if they are actually fta or not, because anywhere other than the southeast, you'd pick up one of the other spot beams using that frequency, so most people can't receive those channels.

Jose47 · #5 (**permalink**) 03-06-2007, 07:49 AM

The free channels (Miami Stations) mentioned on this post are actually beamed at South Florida.

lumpkin666 · #6 (**permalink**) 03-06-2007, 08:16 AM

Much of what is listed as "F" comes in great with a circular polarity LNB and the correct settings. Unfortunately, the only channel that I wanted from their sats was BYUTV, and although it has been listed as "F", it definitely is not. (thus, the weather needs to get nice for a few days so that I can get out and mount some of the FTA dishes that I've bought in the last couple weeks!)

glen4cindy · #7 (**permalink**) 03-06-2007, 01:37 PM

I didn't even notice that the nets that I looked at were a spot beam. Looks like I will leave things as they are.

Another sat I already point to has lots of FTA radio so that would really be the only thing I would want off of there.

Thanks!

boroda1 · #8 (**permalink**) 03-06-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lumpkin666

... Unfortunately, the only channel that I wanted from their sats was BYUTV, and although it has been listed as "F", it definitely is not.

Last time when I was watching BYU, it was available (on Ku - band) from SatMex5.
You will need to switch to mono, because one of audio channels is constantly announcing "this is Brigham - Young University channel...". There are several audio tracks available.
For Dish channels, I usually use "Scan FTA channels only" option and blind-scan. After 20 min. "cooking", you may see about 6 - 10 channels, most of which are mirrors of "101 channel", and you will delete these right away

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Sometimes however, they put some test channels in the clear.

keebs · #9 (**permalink**) 03-06-2007, 05:47 PM

are you saying that at times DN channels are in the clear?

rainman · #10 (**permalink**) 03-06-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by keebs

are you saying that at times DN channels are in the clear?

every once and a while you will find a channel in the clear.

Iceberg · #11 (**permalink**) 03-06-2007, 10:00 PM

unfortunatelly Satmex5 has horrible reception in the northern states so I can't get BYU TV here in MN with a 36" dish

Sadoun · #12 (**permalink**) 03-06-2007, 11:44 PM

Also, keep in mind spot beam channels are usually not avilable outside of 100 miles radius of the target market.

Sadoun · #13 (**permalink**) 03-06-2007, 11:44 PM

Also, keep in mind spot beam channels are usually not avilable outside of 100 miles radius of the target market.

lumpkin666 · #14 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceberg

unfortunatelly Satmex5 has horrible reception in the northern states so I can't get BYU TV here in MN with a 36" dish

I hope Satmex 5 is doable with a 36" dish from Southern Iowa... otherwise I have a lot of FTA equipment that I don't need.

rainman · #15 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by lumpkin666

I hope Satmex 5 is doable with a 36" dish from Southern Iowa... otherwise I have a lot of FTA equipment that I don't need.

I am in noth eastern ky. and have no trouble with a 36" dish getting satmex 5.

boroda1 · #16 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rainman

I am in noth eastern ky. and have no trouble with a 36" dish getting satmex 5.

Are you getting 12163 H too?

rainman · #17 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by boroda1

Are you getting 12163 H too?

haven't tried lately I usualy use my 8.5' dish for the western sats I will check when i get home tonight.