the 2 birds that Charlie is using for new locals (105 & 121) are only 5 & 2 degrees off their main birds. They are a lower powered.
"Poor Mans Superdish" was something that came about with too many people having old Primestar dishes and they figured out how it worked.
Since Charlie decided to screw with existing customers (new customers get the SD install right away..existing customers have waited up to 5 months for it), some of us decided on the other route.
