OK, got them all (TPs and channels). I have learned alot, mosty from this fine forum! Turns out that:
1) I had assumed that the LNB setting should be universal - That was a WRONG assumption. Just because you have a standard LNB, doesn't mean is universal. I (in desparation) was sitting there, pushing buttons, and went through the LNB types on the sscreen, and GOD smiled, and signal and quality appeared where there was none. I power sacanned
G25 again, and everything came in. Now that I realized what happened, it seems pretty simple.