Thanks for the explanation wejones.I'm used to working with feedhorns with separate c and ku lnbs with the 11.7 to 12.2 range for the ku lnb.I think I've seen lnbfs listed as standard with the 11.7 to 12.2 range,but when I see them listed up to the 12.7 range,that always made me wonder if it was a universal or standard.
I think I have it sorted out now by checking for the 10.7and higher range,making it a universal if I am correct.