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Originally Posted by treeman View Post
I have a fortec ultra with a ku feed from a 10' mesh dish looped thru to a 4dtv reciever. I get 15 ku feeds on X4(g16) clearly so I know I'm on the right sat. But when I try to view the ultra my quality meter never
budges off of 0. I've done scans and powerscans and tp scans to no avail.
My antenna set ups are standard lnb with1070 local lnb,as m1070 hemt is written on my ku lnb.Any suggestions?
Thanks, treeman
I agree with Steve about using 10750 not 1070 for the LO freq, although I don't think that would affect your ability to do a blind scan, but this missing digit thing is so far off that it might do strange things.
I think (as usual) that it's WAY too premature to conclude that you need to re-align. There is absolutely zero evidence of that.... yet. However Steve is right that there is something strange about what you are saying you see on Ku on this sat.
With the 4dtv, there are hundreds of scrambled DCII channels that are of the type that if you get one, you should get them all, not necessarily see video, but you should tune them. So I'm curious what 15 feeds you are receiving with the 4dtv? Steve is right that it may well be that you are seeing C-band, or it is possible that you are on the wrong sat (which is not an alignment issue), but to conclude that we'd have to see a list of just what you are seeing.

Another thing is that seeing nothing with the Ultra isn't really unexpected, depending upon how you do your scans. First of all, there isn't really much in the way of full time FTA on this sat. There are lots of transponders that you should lock, if you do the scan in the right way, but most of the transponders either don't have A/V channels (ie like Hughesnet data transponders), or they have scrambled channels that you can't view.
If you have done transponder scans or network scans or satellite scans, using default transponders, then it is not at all unexpected that you wouldn't find any channels. The power scan, however SHOULD find transponders, but since you have an Ultra, there are a lot of issues. First of all, if this is an Ultra which has been used for some time, and has a lot of channels/transponders saved, it may well be in the memory overload mode, in which it just simply won't scan in anything. If this is the case, you're best off using Gtools, and getting down under the transponder/channel limits.
If, however this is an Ultra that is "new", or has recently been reset to factory conditions, it should scan things in, *HOWEVER*, the Ultra, at least MY ULTRA, can be very flakey. It has a "Scan Range" setting that can be "Full", or "High" or "Low". You *SHOULD* be able to use the "FULL" mode, however with MY Ultra, the Full mode will generally miss transponders, whereas if I scan both in LOW and HIGH mode, I will generally pick up most transponders.
The other issue, is that if you do a scan in FTA mode, it may find the transponders, but won't find any channels, in this case, because the channels are scrambled. If you do your scans in ALL+D mode, it should find all channels, although it's likely that nothing will be viewable.
I would recommend putting your 4DTV on a vertical channel, like an even analog channel, like C-band channel 24 (I assume 24 would be the real transponder 24 on a 4dtv???). Then edit transponders on your Ultra, and add a "New" transponder at 12187V/8500 (ie frequency 12187 Symbol rate 8500, vertical polarity). Once added, go to transponder scan, and choose this transponder. See if you get both signal and quality indications. If you do tell it to scan, and use the ALL+D mode. It should scan in a handfull of channels, however they are all encrypted, so when you go to view them it will say bad or scrambled. This will insure that you are on the right sat.

Basically, I think that IF you are on the right sat, that there is really not much on that sat that can be viewed 24/7. Most of the transponders on that sat are used for DCII signals, and the channels that are in DVB mode that can be locked by a FTA receiver like the Ultra are mostly scrambled, plus the Ultra is prone to missing things anyway.
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