c band receiver

[keebs]

is this any good for c band? and how about vc2 box? do i need that too? band?eBay: C-Band Satellite Receiver Decoder NCC500 Nextwave NEW (item 330081280043 end time Feb-05-07 14:27:07 PST)

[rainman]

Originally Posted by keebs

is this any good for c band? and how about vc2 box? do i need that too? band?eBay: C-Band Satellite Receiver Decoder NCC500 Nextwave NEW (item 330081280043 end time Feb-05-07 14:27:07 PST)

sounds like a good deal on a analog receiver you will only need the VCII IF you want to subscribe to the few analog channels that are subscription.

[pmb1010]

Originally Posted by keebs

is this any good for c band? and how about vc2 box? do i need that too? band?eBay: C-Band Satellite Receiver Decoder NCC500 Nextwave NEW (item 330081280043 end time Feb-05-07 14:27:07 PST)

Be aware that lots of stuff is going off of analog, and to digital.

I bought a used, like new GI 650i C/Ku analog receiver, with VC2 module, for less than $50. You can find used receivers for C/Ku band for dirt cheap.

Make sure you read this thread:
NextWave Navigator NCC500 Receiver - Page 2 - SatelliteGuys.US
Looks like you can find it cheaper than 90 bux. Would be good deal at $15

If you plan to get serious with C band, and want to subscribe - go the whole way and find a 922 analog digital C/Ku receiver.
You can get a used one for $250 to $300 if you shop around.

[keebs]

i think rainman mentioned something about that. i guess you are right, i will look for something analog/digital. so will the regular lnb work with a digital receiver or will it need to upgraded?

[rainman]

Originally Posted by keebs

i think rainman mentioned something about that. i guess you are right, i will look for something analog/digital. so will the regular lnb work with a digital receiver or will it need to upgraded?

I would give the regular lnb a shot it should work if not you can always upgrade later to a norsat.

[keebs]

can anyone link me to a good priced analog/digital receiver? all i found was real expensive ones, like 400 and up.

Might try for a Mutant 200s or Spacestar 700s. You have to verify the specs.

DGStation
http://www.dgstation.co.kr/

I have the 700s pre mutant 200s and it can do both C/Ku and this one 200s has ethernet out + scart + sim card slot. I have seen same models with PVR and hard drive inside ,Cubecafe but might be a bit expensive not sure.

I have been quite happy with my Spacestar 700s except for the old firmware 25 jan 2005 but not a problem updates = Asesin 7.x .
I just have to add TP's and rename 2 satellites. Nothing serious. Most of the older satellites are there, Mutant = up to date.

For a cheap start junker = mine rocks. $60 about new.

SCPC & MCPC receivable from C/Ku band satellites as typed from my manual.

Once you are up and running and have a better feel for what you want you might want to try the Mercury II from Sadoun as this is next on my list soon + the 180cm + Vbox2 + 180 HH motor mouth watering.

I have seen a few 200s 's in arlington TX and NC.
PS> Spacestar has no customer support = same building as Coolsat LOL

Hope this helps.

[pmb1010]

WarraWarra, I think he's looking for receiver that will receive DC II encryption, in order to receive pay for services in the US.

Only 1 receiver available that will do that - the DSR922.

[rainman]

Originally Posted by keebs

can anyone link me to a good priced analog/digital receiver? all i found was real expensive ones, like 400 and up.

thats about the going price for the DSR922 new you may find a used one on Ebay but be careful if the battery is dead the receiver becomes a door stop.

Originally Posted by pmb1010

WarraWarra, I think he's looking for receiver that will receive DC II encryption, in order to receive pay for services in the US.

Only 1 receiver available that will do that - the DSR922.

Ouch that is expesnive. Heck for that price might as well get second hand industrial type equipment on a auction or somewhere.

Darn if I was 2 months earlier a guy here close to me was selling his 10' dish for $50 spotless , I will ask him maybe he has some sat equipment / receivers left that fits the bill.

[pmb1010]

That ain't gonna do it, either. Most of those "industrial" type devices are head ends for cable systems. They download maps specific to one satellite, and are not user friendly on a movable dish scenerio.

The DSR922 was the industries answer to the movment from analog signals to digital in the mid 90's. It was the consumer replacment device for C and Ku band reception.

The issues with this are C band DCII is coming to it's end of life. Although one can argue there's still lots of stuff out there (there is) the issue comes as this:
- It's a pain to get HD.
- It's a pain to get Time shift (recorded) TIVO type stuff.
- They are moving away from DCII and into "PowerVu" and other technologies.

They want to cram more signals into less space. The old technology is fading, and fading fast. Even the internet (U-Tube et al) is taking over.
They have (and will not) release a newer receiver for C band. This is it.
Even the program providers need to "re-uplink" stuff thats coming off of C band, and put it on Ku so the big dish customers can get the programming that's going away. And the uplink/downlink signal looks like Dish/DirecTV, with their overcompressed signals. So that takes away the advantage of great looking signals from the C band folks...

As much as I want to, I cannot bring myself to buy into C/Ku for the price being asked ($300-400) for the receiver. One big issue is there is a huge tree at (approx) 133 degrees for me in neighbors yard, where this box needs to see to get authorized, and receive the electronic program guide.

YMMV

[keebs]

im just looking for a starter box. right now im just looking for fta c band. from what i understand i need a digital receiver. because there is not much left on the analog side right? Basic, basic, basic. what are some key words i need to be looking for in descriptions of these receivers? thanks.

[pmb1010]

keep searching ebay.

heres a site that has descriptions for many c band models:
Receiver List

The houston tracker 8 was one I was looking for before I found the GI 650i

[keebs]

what i mean is what will it say? ebay description suck most of the time. so if analog is dead, should the receiver i purchase say "digital" or something else?

Originally Posted by keebs

what I mean is what will it say? ebay description suck most of the time. So if analog is dead, should the receiver I purchase say "digital" or something else?

I ended up with what I have as I also do not have a answer for this. I though that the only analog SAT's was in-between Africa and AustralAsia ?? Surely all Satellites from Japan to America to Europe to India is only digital ?

[rainman]

Originally Posted by keebs

what i mean is what will it say? ebay description suck most of the time. so if analog is dead, should the receiver i purchase say "digital" or something else?

if you want to do digital signal only you can use a fortec FTA receiver like the Mercury and get a v box to move the dish.if you want a c band analog receiver it should say analog no receiver will do both analog and DVB MPEG 2.

[wejones]

Originally Posted by keebs

im just looking for a starter box. right now im just looking for fta c band. from what i understand i need a digital receiver. because there is not much left on the analog side right? Basic, basic, basic. what are some key words i need to be looking for in descriptions of these receivers? thanks.

I'm still confused re what you are looking for. When you say "fta c band", then you probably already have a receiver for that, because ANY fta receiver will do C band. In your next message you said you were looking for a "digital" C-band receiver. As other people posted, the only thing that really fits that description is a 4DTV, but that's not simple, and is a questionable investment at this point. Above you say you aren't interested in analog, so it seems like the only reason you want the receiver is to move the dish, but a Vbox thing can do that if all you want is FTA. If you are looking for free DCII (FP or ZK), then a used 4200V might be useful, but there isn't a whole lot free anymore, and the 4200V, as mentioned above, is NOT very user friendly (it takes me about 60 keystrokes and a 5 minute wait to switch from one PBS vct to another for example).

When you say above, that you are looking for a "basic, basic, basic" receiver, I'd take that to mean a simple analog receiver that can move the dish, and might be VCII compatable. Ie, an IRD. As mentioned in other posts, there are apparently a few new ones still available, but I don't know much about them. Re the old ones, there are several brands. The best ones were Monterey 50/55 or 90/95 , Drake 1824, a few General Instrument models, a few Toshiba models, a few Houston Tracker/ EchoStar models, and a few Uniden models. (Most people don't like Uniden, but I have an old Uniden myself, that is still going strong after almost 20 years.) Assuming that you want an IRD, usually, if it mentions VCII+ or VCRS it is VCII compatable, and will probably also have a dish mover built in. One problem though, with buying an old receiver, is that most are hard to use without a remote, and sometimes if a remote comes with it, some keys won't work, and a new remote will cost as much as the receiver, unless you can get a universal remote to control it.

So, what do you mean by "basic, basic, basic" ? Ie what do you plan to do with the receiver? Because it sounds like you've said you aren't interested in analog or DCII, so I'm not sure what is left. I almost get the impression that perhaps you don't realize that to get C-band fta, that you don't need a C-band receiver. Ie any fta receiver will work, as long as you have some way to move the dish, and/or change polarity.