Winegard 10 Foot Satellite Dish

[crankbooster]

Any body know any thing about the 10 foot, 3 meter Winegard Satellite Dish,
I want to get a used one but I want to know what I can do with this dish
Info: Winegard Satallite dish
Serial no.35664 ( Not sure cause it wasn't very readable)
On the lnb
lnb 0950
Echostar unimesh
Gain 64
noise 65 Model no. E7155216
Can I use this this for both C and KU Band?
IF yes what do I need to do?

[rainman]

as long as the holes in the mesh is not to big.shouldn't be able to put a pencil through should be ok for KU. you will need a co rotor II for c and ku reception if you are after analog feeds also.plus the lnb's. if you are only after digital FTA c and ku feeds you could use the bsc-621 feed horn.

[crankbooster]

Originally Posted by rainman

as long as the holes in the mesh is not to big.shouldn't be able to put a pencil through should be ok for KU. you will need a co rotor II for c and ku reception if you are after analog feeds also.plus the lnb's. if you are only after digital FTA c and ku feeds you could use the bsc-621 feed horn.

Above is a picture of the dish
Any info will be appreciated

[pmb1010]

as rainman said, the key here is:

1. will a pencil go thru the mesh?

2. is the mesh all dented up, or is it pretty straight?

It will work for C band just fine. It might work for Ku, but the issue is the waves kinda go right thru a larger mesh size.

A lot depends on what receiver you wish to link this to, as to LNB selection and how you intend to get the thing to move.

[crankbooster]

Originally Posted by pmb1010

as rainman said, the key here is:

1. will a pencil go thru the mesh?

2. is the mesh all dented up, or is it pretty straight?

It will work for C band just fine. It might work for Ku, but the issue is the waves kinda go right thru a larger mesh size.

A lot depends on what receiver you wish to link this to, as to LNB selection and how you intend to get the thing to move.

1. A pencil will not go through the mesh, the holes are just a little bigger than a mosquito net.

2. The mech is pretty straight.

I want some subscription channels from GlobecastWtv and it says I will need a MPEG-2 DVB receiver

[rainman]

nice looking dish should work ok. for globecast subscription i think you have to use their receiver. as far as using a FTA mpeg receiver this set up should work fine you will need a dish mover if you don't have the analog receiver.

[crankbooster]

Originally Posted by rainman

nice looking dish should work ok. for globecast subscription i think you have to use their receiver. as far as using a FTA mpeg receiver this set up should work fine you will need a dish mover if you don't have the analog receiver.

What do you mean dish mover and analog receiver

[pmb1010]

Most big C band dishes years ago were used for Analog reception. The receiver had control wires that sent a voltage signal to something attached to the back of the dish (a motor) called an actuator.

This moved the dish side to side, controlled by the receiver.

What's happened over the years a lot of the analog signals were replaced by digital signals. So the users migrated receivers from analog to digital. The motorola DCII type boxes became the one that mostly used.
The issue here is, these digital boxes were specific and did not do FTA type signals.

So you need another receiver. Example Fortec Lifetime, Pansat, etc type series. These digital receivers will control a motor, but only a specific type of motor positioner - an H to H motor. These are made for 30 to 48 inch dish sizes. They wont control the actuator on your big cband dish.

So you need a way to move the dish. If using a Fortec receiver, you need to put something in to do this, the Motec VTek positioner will move a big dish from a Fortec receiver.

I guess the question is, if you want to get Globecast would this system work?
GlobeCast WorldTV satellite Systems FTA Nagravision subscription

I dont know enought about Globecast to know if there is subscription globecase on Cband or not. Maybe you dont need to fool around with such a big dish when what you want is available on the smaller sized FTA dish.

[crankbooster]

I have only one channel that interest me on globecast.
Can I use 2 different reciever with one Dish?

[pmb1010]

yes.

If you're only intererested in 1 channel, you would not need a motor to move the dish.

Stationary dish, with Dual LNB (RG-6 cable runs from dish to each receiver) and 2 globecast receivers would do it.
KUL2 Dual Output 0.4db Noise figure Sadoun Standard Linear Offset LNBF LNB

[crankbooster]

Originally Posted by pmb1010

yes.

If you're only intererested in 1 channel, you would not need a motor to move the dish.

Stationary dish, with Dual LNB (RG-6 cable runs from dish to each receiver) and 2 globecast receivers would do it.
KUL2 Dual Output 0.4db Noise figure Sadoun Standard Linear Offset LNBF LNB

What I mean is that I am only interested in one channel from globecast subscription list which is why i need to get thier receiver . I have even been try to call globecast but no luck

[rainman]

Originally Posted by crankbooster

What do you mean dish mover and analog receiver

for one of my big dish I am using a undien 4600 analog receiver to move the dish and control polarity. on the other one i order a moteck v box to control the motor.if you are stricktly looking for FTA then go with the v box it will work just fine.

[wejones]

Originally Posted by rainman

for one of my big dish I am using a undien 4600 analog receiver to move the dish and control polarity. on the other one i order a moteck v box to control the motor.if you are stricktly looking for FTA then go with the v box it will work just fine.

Just to avoid confusion, in the event that anyone tries to acquire a used analog "receiver" to move a big dish, not all analog receivers can move a dish. Back in the 80s, there were receivers, that were just that, they were receivers, and you had to have a separate dish mover to move the dish from sat to sat. Then, with the advent of scrambling and subscription services, they started making things called "IRDs", which are integrated receivers and descramblers, but also had built in dish movers. It used to be that if you bought a receiver, it couldn't move a dish, and if you bought an IRD, that it could move a dish. Now, people refer to the IRDs as receivers, so if you go on EBAY or something to buy an old analog "receiver", you have to read carefully to see if it is capable of moving a dish. Usually, if VCII is mentioned, it is probably an IRD, and probably has a built in dish mover, even though the VCII (videocipher descrambler module) has nothing to do with moving dishes.

[Salukian]

Originally Posted by wejones

.... Back in the 80s, there were receivers, that were just that, they were receivers, and you had to have a separate dish mover to move the dish from sat to sat. ..

Have you seen the picture of that Monster dish on cover of Tele Satellite magazine? That guy may need a team of mules to move his dish! And by the way, Sadoun, your ad looks good.

I have an old VideoPlus knob tuner I still use on occaision for Ku analog. It's one of those old tuners without a positioner/mover.

[rainman]

Originally Posted by Salukian

Have you seen the picture of that Monster dish on cover of Tele Satellite magazine? That guy may need a team of mules to move his dish! And by the way, Sadoun, your ad looks good.

I have an old VideoPlus knob tuner I still use on occaision for Ku analog. It's one of those old tuners without a positioner/mover.

either that or a big diesel engine.LOL

[wejones]

Originally Posted by Salukian

Have you seen the picture of that Monster dish on cover of Tele Satellite magazine? That guy may need a team of mules to move his dish! And by the way, Sadoun, your ad looks good.

I have an old VideoPlus knob tuner I still use on occaision for Ku analog. It's one of those old tuners without a positioner/mover.

And then there is the "26-foot" dish fellow over on satforums, which would put the above 16' to shame. :-)

I used to have a knob tuner type receiver, but I gave that away long ago, and I wish I hadn't. I do have an old Uniden receiver only receiver, but it is a click-click thing that goes between channels, and can't tune off center freq at all, which is annoying. I've been looking for an old receiver that can tune any freq conveniently, and ideally tell me what freq it's on, but that's probably asking a lot.

Re dish mover, I do still have my old separate dish mover, which is just a unit that looks something like a receiver, but has no receiver function, just a connection to the dish motor, and you program in the positions of the various satellites. Haven't used this for over 16 years.