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    I only used it because I had it on hand. I would not trust it for permanent install. If it's going to be windy, I typically point the dish sideways to the wind best I can to minimize wind load. It's in the ground much longer than I wanted at this point. It took a long time to get a tree guy here (we're still suffering from the October 2006 freak snowstorm that toook out a bunch of trees, and tree guys are still booked)

    I have a 10 foot section of black pipe sched 40 from Lowes, it's not very expensive and is what will be installed as soon as I get a break from work.

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    ordered a 6 footer..

    Ok, Now I am real excited... I finally ordered the 6 foot motorized dish kit from Sadoun two weeks ago. I was sent everything but the dish and that is on back order, so I am eagerly waiting for it. I guess I will have that weekend project that will probably last all winter.. ha ha. I plan on getting that 2" or 2 1/2" pipe (55mm to 75mm) and plant in the ground in the next couple of weeks if the soil doesn't freeze. I also have to figure out what wiring to set up to the dish. The dish is about 150 feet from my house. I figure one coax, 14 ga power wiring, and 16 ga communicating cable to bury a few inches under ground. I might get some of that ribbon cable since I may want to plant my current 80 cm dish near by.

    Would it be easy to connect the 6 ft dish using C and Ku band with a motor and the 80cm fixed dish to one Mercury receiver with a disque switch? I know the LNB feed horn uses C and Ku with its own switch built-in. What about two motorized dishes?

    About that slippery dish issue for the snow load, I wonder if that RAIN-X for car windshields would work? It is basically wax, and all the skiers put wax on their skiis to slide through the snow....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvius View Post
    Ok, Now I am real excited... I finally ordered the 6 foot motorized dish kit from Sadoun two weeks ago. I was sent everything but the dish and that is on back order, so I am eagerly waiting for it. I guess I will have that weekend project that will probably last all winter.. ha ha. I plan on getting that 2" or 2 1/2" pipe (55mm to 75mm) and plant in the ground in the next couple of weeks if the soil doesn't freeze. I also have to figure out what wiring to set up to the dish. The dish is about 150 feet from my house. I figure one coax, 14 ga power wiring, and 16 ga communicating cable to bury a few inches under ground. I might get some of that ribbon cable since I may want to plant my current 80 cm dish near by.

    Would it be easy to connect the 6 ft dish using C and Ku band with a motor and the 80cm fixed dish to one Mercury receiver with a disque switch? I know the LNB feed horn uses C and Ku with its own switch built-in. What about two motorized dishes?

    About that slippery dish issue for the snow load, I wonder if that RAIN-X for car windshields would work? It is basically wax, and all the skiers put wax on their skiis to slide through the snow....
    yep you can hook both dishes to one receiver get a 4 way disqec switch don't use the switch in the bsc 621 instead run c band to port 1 of the 4 way ku to port 2 and the 80 cm to port 3 should work just fine.
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    minimizing cable..

    Thanks Rainman...

    Can I put this switch close to the dishes, say 25 feet, and then run a single cable back to the house which would be about 125 feet?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvius View Post
    Thanks Rainman...

    Can I put this switch close to the dishes, say 25 feet, and then run a single cable back to the house which would be about 125 feet?

    Thanks
    get dsc-41 that Sadoun sell with the weather cover and you can put it right at the dish which is recommended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvius View Post
    1) I might get some of that ribbon cable

    2) connect the 6 ft dish using C and Ku band with a motor and the 80cm fixed dish to one Mercury receiver with a disque switch?

    3)What about two motorized dishes?

    4)RAIN-X
    1- I'd use 2 runs of good, current production coax rather than stuff that might be old vintage just because its got ribbon with it. Then you're assured you have all the signal you can get back to the receiver.

    2- probably. What's the LNB for the 6 footer?

    3- That's going to be dicey. What motor do you have for 6 footer? If I remember, Bibbler was going to attempt something like that and burned up something...

    4- That should work.

    I never did get my new steel pole in the ground. I did replace the EMT that was rotating by putting a new piece of EMT in a new hole, with bolts thru the pipe to pin it in place. It's windy today, and it flexes enough in the wind to make the picture unstable.

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    no dish yet...

    Thanks PMB1010.

    I have the BSC621-2 LNB that comes with Sadoun's kit.

    I got an exterior disque switch from Sadoun, but it came with no instructions or diagrams. It has 5 connections on the bottom and is housed in a plastic shell. Which connection goes back to the receiver, and which ones go to the LNBs?

    I still don't have my dish. It has been 3 weeks and I am getting a bit disappointed.

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    you need to remove it from the plastic shell.
    Use a screwdriver or something to move the shell away and it'll slip out.

    Typically, the center port is the one that goes back to the receiver.
    You'll know right away by looking at the other ports- they will be labeled 1 2 3 and 4. It might be on the end, also. You need to look at it.

    You will not use the small jumper cable on the BSC621-2.
    Connect port 1 of the Diseqc switch to the RCV port on LNB (C band)
    Connect port 2 of the diseqc switch to the END of the LNB (Ku band)
    Connect port 3 to your 80cm fixed dish (Ku band)

    Connect the center port to your long cable back to receiver.

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    pipe pole

    Well, I bought a 2-1/2" x 10 ft. galvinized heavy pipe from Home Depot. It was expensive...$40. I hope it won't bend in the wind... I started digging the hole and it looks deep at 2 feet and my target is 3 feet. I gave up today and will dig the rest next weekend.

    I am pretty sure I have some good lines of site to bunches of satellites. There are trees near my 79 and 87 targets, but they look like they are just below my 40 degree elevation mark.

    Thanks for all the good advice you Experts...

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    It'll be worth it. 40 bux ain't too bad.
    I had to buy a 2nd bag of fast set concrete and it alone was $9!

    You might want to search for an old C band analog receiver too.
    makes for lining things up a little easier - digital "snaps in" whereas analog gets a fuzzy picture if its off a bit. THeres still some stuff on analog that makes it worthwhile the $50 or less for a box.

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