Hey Rumproat ! - you been living under a rock or something
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Wake up early some Sunday AM, like 5:30am and channel surf your regular stations, I'm sure you'll come across ole' Jim Baker sans a lot of hair from when he was on long ago with PTL & Tammy.
He's been around since he got out of jail. Up to the same or similar tricks, but much more subdued these days.
As far as Jack, if you saw him it was probably touting his food juicer on an infomercial, right??