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Old 08-11-2006, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by elgemcdlf
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I do not know the terminology for a "clear encrypted" channels. In other words if you have the ability to decrypt it is clear to you.
I'm not sure where the "clear encrypted" issue came in here, and this is probably not what you're referring to above, but with a DCII receiver, there are non-encrypted channels that are ZK that can be received by any receiver, and another category called FP or fixed process, which are encrypted, but encrypted with a fixed key. The FP channels are only viewable if you have a receiver that has at some time been authorized. I guess that would fit your "clear encrypted" description. Also, with the analog VCII signals, there are several categories of signals, some of which are viewable by any VCII, similar to the ZK thing above, and then there are signals that can be received only by people with a subscription, some things that can be viewed by people without a subscription, some things in barker mode that can be viewed for a while, then jump back into barker mode, unless you have one of those receivers which can issue the right keystrokes to keep it in view mode, and finally some things only viewable in Canada or USA, etc. I think all of these might fit your term "clear encrypted". Still not sure where the term came from though.
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Originally Posted by elgemcdlf
Unless the receiver is dirt cheap it most likely is not worth buying unless it can move an actuator and you need a dish mover. Most everything is moving over to digital (MPEG). I watch the channels disappear rather rapidly from analog.
I wouldn't be without an analog receiver, even if ALL the analog channels went away. One of several reasons is that the baseband output of an analog receiver allows you to accurately determine the SR of a DVB signal, if you feed it into a communications receiver capable of FM reception in the HF band. Ie I use my Broadlogic receiver to give me a spectrum of a satellite, from which I can see signals, then I tune my analog receiver to that frequency, and feed the baseband output to my short wave receiver, and I can very accurately pin down the SR value of the signal.

This can also be used with a known signal to locate a satellite quickly. Ie I set up my analog receiver on the frequency of a known signal on a sat I'm looking for, and set up the shortwave on the SR value, then move my dish, and when I get close to the sat I'm looking for, I'll see the signal meter go up on the shortwave, and hear the static go to a full quieting signal. This is generally faster than putting a DVB receiver on a signal, because there is usually a delay in the signal meter response on the DVB receivers, whereas the SW signal is an instant response.

Anyway, just a couple reasons that I would never be without an analog receiver, even though I watch very few analog signals anymore.
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